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Eagle County Sheriff Van Beek opposes red flag law signed by Gov. Polis

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April 12, 2019, 10:47 pm

Eagle County Sheriff James Van Beek on Friday issued a lengthy statement opposing the Extreme Risk Protection Order law — also known as the Red Flag bill — that was signed into law by Gov. Jared Polis on Friday.

Eagle County Sheriff James Van Beek
Eagle County Sheriff James Van Beek

Van Beek last year said he conceptually supported the law but was worried about potential judicial issues. Vail Police Chief Dwight Henninger also supported last year’s bill, which fell short in the Republican state Senate, and again testified in favor of the bill this year. Van Beek had yet to issue a statement on the bill, which passed both chambers of the legislature.

The law allows law enforcement or family members to petition a judge to order the confiscation of firearms from a person deemed a threat to themselves or others.

The bill this year was sponsored by state Rep. Tom Sullivan, whose son Alex was killed in the 2012 Aurora theater shooting. He issued this statement today:

“It’s been 351 Friday’s since Alex was murdered. I know how this is going to save lives and I know how hard everybody has worked these past 351 Friday’s,” Sullivan said. “I struggle with the price that we paid to get where we are today. We still have more work to do.”

The bill has the support of numerous law enforcement officials, including Sheriff Tony Spurlock, who lost a deputy in Douglas County to a mentally ill man whom family members had warned police about. The 2019 bill was named after Douglas County Sheriff’s Deputy Zach Parrish.

Here’s the full statement of opposition from Eagle County Sheriff Van Beek, as posted on Facebook:

Many have asked for the last several weeks where I stood on the Extreme Risk Protection Order Bill, while I took a considerable amount of time reading and researching and editing, tonight I let you know. It is a very long read but felt it had to be!

One of our nation’s most controversial new laws spreading across the country is known as the Red Flag Law, which has been approved by the CO House & Senate, awaiting the Governor’s signature. It would go into effect on January 1, 2020. Its purpose is to identify potential dangers and neutralize them by removing weapons from those whose behavior may appear erratic and possibly dangerous. While on the surface it seems to be a great idea, like everything else that is complex, the devil is in the details, and these details are constitutionally troublesome.

The contradiction between wanting to actively stop a potential tragedy and respecting an individual’s fundamental rights is causing a huge discourse between legislators, law enforcement (who will be on the frontlines implementing the law), and the counties who will be expected to pay an unfunded mandate, out of tight budgets.

The Red Flag Law is officially known as, Extreme Risk Protection Orders, attempts to prevent harm, caused by those who are experiencing a mental health crisis, which may result in violence to themselves or others. The intent of the law is one in which we can all agree; the implementation is problematic.

The premise of the law, to prevent tragedy due to a mental health issue, is solid. The presumption of predicting behavior is questionable. In some cases, it is a rather explicit cause and effect… someone makes direct threats, along with a violent history, which indicates a likely outcome, justifying an extreme intervention. However, we must be cautious in making assumptions, as well as aware of the potential for abuse.

Each of the current 15-states & DC, have provisions unique to their jurisdictions, with the most sensitive, being in states where school shootings have occurred. In Colorado, we are still reeling from Columbine, the Aurora Theater, and other violent tragedies, so, all are motivated to seek solutions, and none more than our county Sheriffs.

The initial focus of the bill was relating to mental health and public safety. Everyone was in support of identifying those in emotional crisis and providing treatment before anyone was harmed, with an emphasis on suicide prevention and potential homicidal inclinations. While guns have played a part of the cases brought forth for consideration, the true issue was on the people, who were in such desperate need of treatment, that they acted beyond anyone’s anticipation, sometimes uncharacteristically, to the point of being considered a mortal danger to themselves or others.

However, typical of so many good ideas gone wrong, as this bill made its way through the state capitol this issue turned became highly political… going from cutting-edge mental health legislation to what is perceived by many to be a gun-grab, leaving the Constitution in its wake.

We had the unique opportunity of moving Colorado from 47th to 1st place in the nation on addressing the behavioral health crisis that has impacted communities across the country. I agree with the experts who consider mental health the primary cause of these violent attacks. A disturbed mind will not be deterred by the removal of their guns.

House Rep. Tom Sullivan, whose son was killed in the Aurora theater shooting in 2012 says, “This bill will give law enforcement and families the tools that they need to stop tragedies from constantly happening and save lives.” Yet, what the Red Flag law addresses, is merely one of the potential tools used in implementation; it does nothing to diminish the determination to accomplish the act. If it was only as simple as removing guns, we would have considerably less crime in this country, but as we have seen, many of our cities with the strictest gun laws, coincidently have the highest murder rates, proving, where there is a will, there is a way.

By removing guns from someone intent on committing suicide or murder, we still have the danger of someone who may be unbalanced, now, angrier than before, and looking for another means… explosives, poisons, knives, car incidents of mowing down groups of unsuspecting innocents, and if fixated on shooting… the illegal purchase of guns, as is evidenced by the numerous weapons owned by gang members, who couldn’t care less about gun laws. So, what can be done?

In Eagle County, we are at the forefront of establishing public-private partnerships, to become a model of mental health treatment for communities across the nation. Our county has engaged professionals, covering every aspect of the process, from hospitals to non-profits, to schools, employers, counselors, law enforcement, social services, sports organizations, community groups, clergy, and others. We seek to provide support on every level. If someone is in crisis, we want help to be readily accessible, and easy to engage.

Meanwhile, despite our incredible local progress, we are faced with the implications of this Red Flag law, and rather than help, it has the potential of creating additional barriers to effective mental health solutions, at increased cost, with legal complications that will likely lead to the Supreme Court.

Most people are unfamiliar with the challenges built into this law. Below are some issues we must consider as we proceed.

The Red Flag law provides the following:

A household/family member could petition the court for an order requiring the Respondent to immediately surrender all firearms and any concealed carry permit. A law enforcement agency could also petition the court for a search warrant, based upon presumptive criminal acts.

Upon a judge’s order, without notice, or the accused’s ability to defend charges, his property is taken away. Imagine… their first awareness of an issue is when police arrive at their home stating that they represent the government and are there to confiscate their guns. It’s not hard to imagine how that could elicit conflict, which could easily escalate to a physical encounter, as the defendant attempts to protect their property, placing deputies in immediate danger. By contrast, the laws of California and Oregon require an individual to surrender custody of firearms within 24-hours of being served with an order. Washington allows 48-hours.

A hearing on whether the gun seizure should be extended up to 364 additional days, must take place within 14-days, during which the defendant’s property remains in the custody of law enforcement or a licensed firearms dealer. The defendant is prohibited from purchasing any other guns during this period of time.

This procedure is considered civil and not criminal, yet the accused is treated like a criminal, based entirely on speculation submitted to a judge, from a single, not necessarily professional, source.

The level of scrutiny in court, to allow the confiscation of weapons, is a “preponderance of the evidence”, declaring that the person in question is a risk to themselves or others. “Preponderance of the evidence” is a much lower burden of proof than “clear and convincing evidence” required for the recovery of those same weapons. In other words, they can take away your property with substantially less “cause” than it takes for you to recover them. According to Cornell Law School, “preponderance” means that 51% of the evidence, points to something. In other words, there is just over a 50/50 chance of accuracy… like the flip of a coin. Couldn’t that apply to just about anything a person does?

The Red Flag law allows for a gun-seizure order and search warrant to be completed in one step, with no additional validation presented to the court.

In Colorado, a Red Flag order would be separate from a mental health hold. The Judges are instructed to consider the mental health orders but they need not be applied to issue a Red Flag Order.

Therefore, a person could have guns removed yet not be considered dangerous enough for a mental health hold. If we are being asked to infringe on a person’s right of gun ownership, and the danger declared is imminent, then shouldn’t a mental health evaluation be the first course of action? Yet, it requires the defendant to prove their sanity in order to retrieve their property, which would require a mental health evaluation, yet few, if any, behavioral health services are available. The Red Flag law, as written, is presumptuous, extreme, and backward.

Removing the guns in a constitutionally questionable manner, without notice, denying the accused the ability to defend charges, then requiring medical services that are not available, in order to reinstate private property rights, afterward, is like putting a Band-Aid on the probability of a wound, and not allowing its removal until an injury has occurred. In other words, the entire process is ludicrous.

In addition, if a person is truly in a mental crisis, this aggressive approach will create even greater stress, possibly resulting in a violent overreaction, as their personal property has been taken, without a crime ever having been committed, and done so with no warning or ability to defend themselves against the charges, making the new standard… guilty until proven innocent!

The burden of proof is not on the petitioner (the accuser), as in every other legal case, but instead, is placed on the respondent (defendant) to prove that the accusations are wrong. Proving one’s sanity could be very difficult, as it is highly subjective. There are so many variances, from cultural norms to situational conditions, to medical issues, unrelated to mental health. Yet, the accused cannot retrieve their property until they can “prove” that they are no longer a risk… a “risk” they weren’t allowed to defend, because the proceedings were done without their knowledge, removing the possibility of cross-examination prior to a judge’s order being issued.

A false or malicious accusation could be subject to prosecution, but intent would have to be proven. Once again, how does one “prove” the intent of falsehood or maliciousness? They could always claim that they really believed the threat to be true.

The Red Flag Law can remind one, of the movie “Minority Report”; regulating against what we think someone might do. It’s like regulating via clairvoyance, but in this case, we actually take away someone’s property and require them to go to court to prove their innocence of a crime that hasn’t been committed, yet they were punished because someone thought they might be thinking about it.

Of course, sometimes things are rather explicit, but misinterpretation is always possible. Consider, how many people we know that have either in humor or anger, said they would kill themselves or someone with whom they were upset? We knew, of course, they didn’t mean it literally, but what if someone took it as a death threat and acted on it? Police could break into their homes in the middle of the night, search everything they own, looking for guns, take away their personal property, and all based upon nothing they’ve done, but rather, on the hearsay of someone who could possibly have ulterior motives.

The Red Flag law has been drafted as if accusers were always right and the defendant, always guilty. Our jurisprudence holds the opposite to be true… innocent until proven guilty. There is also a danger that someone could misuse the law to disarm a person they intend to violently target, such as a domestic violence situation, or a murder-suicide plan, thus endangering the very people this law is supposed to protect.

Like so many well-intentioned laws, the long-term implications can easily be exploited and may lead to an abuse of both individual and constitutional rights. In the case of the Red Flag Law, we must be cautious that a concern for mental health issues, does not turn into simply, anti-gun legislation.

I find no mental health programs associated with this law. Just a possible overreach of well-meaning citizens, with no infrastructure for addressing the primary intention of the law: mental health as it relates to public safety.

Our state legislators missed a grand opportunity to address this critical issue, which is the cause of many illegal activities; gun violence being just one of them. We must begin focusing on the root cause of violent behavior and not simply one of the methods used in its implementation.

This law provides for the removal of guns from those charged with the “crime” of mental illness (a stereotype professionals seek to avoid), telling them to get help in order to “prove” their sanity, before they are allowed the return of their personal property. This is discrimination at the highest level.

What problems can arise from this reversal of the traditional rule of order in proceedings, particularly as it deals with issues of mental health?

The fear of being labeled or targeted and having property taken away can inhibit an emotionally unstable person from discussing their mental health issues with family or friends, who might otherwise influence them into seeking treatment. Asking for help now comes with a stigma and at a cost, which may cause a person who is already feeling vulnerable, to now be defenseless, and unable to trust those discussions will remain private, thus, making them less likely to reach out for help and more susceptible to harming themselves or others. Precisely, what this law is supposed to prevent.

CONSTITUTIONAL CHALLENGES

2nd Amendment (Right to Bear Arms)
The Second Amendment specifically states, the right to bear arms “shall not be infringed.”

The Colorado law mandates that the firearms must be surrendered to or taken by the government. After that, the owner may ask that the guns be transferred to a federal-licensed firearms dealer (FFL). Certain collectibles may be transferred to a relative. The custodian may not return the firearms to the owner until the risk protection order is no longer in force (the defendant must prove their innocence).

4th Amendment: Search & Seizure 5th and 14th Amendments: Due Process

The bill infringes upon the inalienable rights of citizens, who are not charged with a crime.

It is also a huge infringement of the 5th Amendment… the right to due process of law.

The initial procedure takes place as an ex-parte hearing, where the gun owner does not have an opportunity to challenge the claims made against them, or even to be notified of the proceedings.

In Colorado, a single person’s complaint against an individual instigates the removal of personal property (the confiscation of guns from their possession), just in case, they may pose a danger to themselves or others, with no actual proof.

There is case law to consider where the U.S. Supreme Court stated: “Cross-examination is beyond any doubt the greatest legal engine ever invented for the discovery of truth … [It] is the great and permanent contribution of the Anglo-American system of law to improved methods of trial-procedure.” – U.S. Supreme Court, 1981 (Watkins v. Sounder).

The National Rifle Association (NRA) raised a valid point on this issue:

“Unchallenged statements made by a petitioner before a judge … would be sufficient for law enforcement to enter that person’s home and confiscate their private property,”

The Red Flag law places the burden of proof on gun owners to prove in court they do not pose a risk if they want to recover firearms that have been seized… guilty until proven innocent.

Depending on how a search warrant is issued, by law, police may enter via a no-knock raid, making it easier for gun seizures, than for all other no-knocks, the bill unlawfully discriminates.

The Supreme Court rejected the notion that an entire class of cases can automatically be no-knock, at unfettered law enforcement discretion. (Richards v. Wisconsin, 1997), thus, stigmatizing gun owners.

Worth consideration, is what if the guns are reported to be at their place of business? A search warrant could certainly be obtained, but the repercussions beyond those already stated, are considerably heightened. A search at a business could conceivably have a negative impact on their organization, possibly costing them their job, even if no guns are discovered. In addition, medical privacy is now violated because business associates are aware of confidential mental health information. That damage cannot be undone.

Taking away personal property, denying 2nd, 4th, 5th, and 14th Amendment rights while placing the burden of proof on the accused rather than the accuser, and doing so, with no notice or ability to counter accusations… essentially, punishing someone for up to a year on hearsay, is certain to be determined illegal by the Supreme Court. I believe, we can do better.

In Connecticut, 32% of confiscation orders are overturned, once judges hear from the respondent. Michael A. Norko & Madelon Baranoski, 46 Conn. Law Review 1609, 1619 (2014). The entire process of this Red Flag law is an expensive means of making us feel like we are doing something when in reality, we are making matters worse. This is the reason why more than half of Colorado’s county Sheriffs oppose the law.

I stand with other Sheriffs in opposition to the Red Flag law on constitutional grounds as well as its failure to address the true issues, which are behavioral and mental health. In addition, it places fiscal hardships on county budgets, places law enforcement officials in imminent danger, violates citizen’s rights, and actually works against the mental health concerns that it was originally designed to aid.

Eagle County does not need to declare sanctuary status because we have always utilized discretion in the implementation of our duties and will continue to do so. Just because we can, doesn’t mean we should, is a core value. We are also fortunate to have a supportive community with a strong mental health focus and professionals who are willing to put the time and money into programs designed to address issues, as they arise.

Governor Polis understands this priority, as he stated on March 26th, that he believes Sheriffs are committed to enforcing laws approved at the Capitol, but he also said they have discretion, to decide which issues to focus on.https://www.coloradoan.com/…/colorado-red-flag-e…/3332455002

Supporting mental health, the safety of our community, as well as upholding our individual rights, will continue to be our focus, and arbitrary laws will not impede that mission. Continuing to reach across political and philosophical differences and finding solid ground, founded in our Constitution, where we, as a community can work together and be a model for the rest of the country to follow, will remain a top priority for the Eagle County Sheriffs Office.

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References to the Red Flag law are plentiful and contain much of the same information, becoming common knowledge, but there was also significant information contained within these articles:

Independence Institute:
https://pagetwo.completecolorado.com/…/kopel-red-flag-bill-…

The Colorado Sun
https://coloradosun.com/20…/…/14/colorado-red-flag-bill-2019

Here’s a version of this story produced by RealVail.com for the Vail Daily:

Eagle County Sheriff James van Beek opposes Colorado’s new red flag gun law

In a lengthy statement posted to Facebook on Friday — the same day Gov. Jared Polis signed the so-called “red flag bill” into law — Eagle County Sheriff James van Beek strongly expressed his opposition to HB 1177, the state’s new Extreme Risk Protection Orders law.

The law, which allows family members and law enforcement officials to petition a judge to allow for the confiscation of firearms from someone deemed a danger to themselves or others, was backed in testimony to the legislature by Vail Police Chief Dwight Henninger and received favorable votes from both local state lawmakers — Sen. Kerry Donovan, D-Vail, and local prosecutor and state Rep. Dylan Roberts, D-Avon.

Van Beek tepidly supported the proposal last year before it was killed in a Senate committee. This year, with Democrats regaining control of the Senate by a slim margin, it passed 18-17 and was signed into law by Polis on Friday.

“I guess in general concept I support it as a tool,” van Beek told the Vail Daily last year. “I have some reservations because it really comes in on peoples’ rights, so I have some hesitation with that. I’m somewhat comfortable with the concept that it’s consistently reviewed by the courts on a regular basis.”

Concerns over constitutional rights

That comfort level for van Beek clearly went away with this year’s version of the bill, although this is his first official statement on the red flag bill during the current legislative session. The Vail Daily has been requesting a comment from the sheriff since March 6. His primary concern with the current version of the law is that it violates the U.S. Constitution.

Van Beek also now opposes the method of granting and executing an ERPO, which he says could escalate problems with someone who’s mentally unstable. And he opposes the judicial process set up for that person to get their guns back — saying it presumes guilt before innocence and puts far too much burden on the accused before they have been charged with or committed a crime.

“Removing the guns in a constitutionally questionable manner, without notice, denying the accused the ability to defend charges, then requiring medical services that are not available, in order to reinstate private property rights, afterward, is like putting a Band-Aid on the probability of a wound, and not allowing its removal until an injury has occurred,” van Beek wrote in his 3,100-plus word Facebook statement. “In other words, the entire process is ludicrous.”

Van Beek compares the current law to Steven Spielberg’s 2002 science fiction thriller “Minority Report” in which Tom Cruise plays a police officer in charge of a PreCrime unit that tries to stop suspects from committing crimes based on the predictions of psychics.

“If a person is truly in a mental crisis, this aggressive approach will create even greater stress, possibly resulting in a violent overreaction, as their personal property has been taken, without a crime ever having been committed, and done so with no warning or ability to defend themselves against the charges, making the new standard … guilty until proven innocent!” van Beek writes.

Henninger, who also testified in support of the law last year, referenced a West Vail bar shooter who had his guns returned to him by a judge despite numerous warning signs before he ultimately opened fire in 2009, killing one and wounding several others.

Mixed law enforcement reaction

Van Beek, who says more than half the sheriffs in Colorado oppose the law, said he attempted to have his concerns addressed during the legislative process over the last few months but that his calls were not returned.

The bill has the support of numerous law enforcement officials, including Henninger and Republican Sheriff Tony Spurlock, who lost a deputy in Douglas County to a mentally ill man whom family members had repeatedly warned police about. The law is named after that slain Douglas County Sheriff’s Deputy, Zach Parrish.

Republican Arapahoe County District Attorney George Brauchler drew serious heat from the right when he supported last year’s bill while unsuccessfully running first for governor and then for attorney general. He flipped on this year’s version of the bill, opposing it in legislative testimony. Democrat Phil Weiser, who beat Brauchler for AG, supports the current red flag law.

The law was sponsored by Democratic state Rep. Tom Sullivan, whose son Alex was killed in the 2012 Aurora theater shooting by a man that mental health professionals had serious concerns about before he opened fire, killing 12 and injuring 70.

“It’s been 351 Friday’s since Alex was murdered. I know how this is going to save lives and I know how hard everybody has worked these past 351 Fridays,” Sullivan said. “I struggle with the price that we paid to get where we are today. We still have more work to do.”

Last year’s version of the bill was sponsored by former Republican state Rep. Cole Wist, who lost his seat last fall due in part to opposition from gun-rights groups. This year, besides Sullivan, the bill was again sponsored by Majority Leader Alec Garnett, D-Denver.

“This is a moment of progress. Today, we did something that was difficult and that is going to save lives,” House Majority Leader Garnett said in a press release. “We are a state and country that counts on officials to uphold the rule of law.

“We have come a long way in this state since Columbine, and this is a law that will hopefully prevent a future Columbine or help prevent a future family from going through a tragedy.” 

According to House Democrats, 14 states have enacted ERPO laws (California, Connecticut, Delaware, Florida, Illinois, Indiana, Maryland, Massachusetts, New Jersey, New York, Oregon, Rhode Island, Vermont and Washington). They claim that at least 29 other states and Washington, D.C. have considered ERPO laws, and the U.S. Senate held a hearing  in March. 

2 Responses to Eagle County Sheriff Van Beek opposes red flag law signed by Gov. Polis

  1. Gene Ralno Reply

    April 13, 2019 at 3:27 pm

    Kudos to Van Beek. Red flag confiscation laws are being trumpeted by socialist-democrats right now because their usual gun control arguments are lopsided losers. They’ve been hoodwinked by Bloomberg’s rhetoric and haven’t read his 2018 data. It reveals gun homicides declined seven percent, firearm injuries declined 10 percent, fatal child shootings (under 18) declined 12 percent and unintentional shootings plummeted 21 percent.

    Further, a December 2018 Gallup Poll revealed that gun control is last on a list of what Americans cite as the most important problem facing the U.S. Seems government is the most important problem and immigration is second most important. Obviously, the socialist-democrats are pushing a solution in search of a problem.

    Unarguably, our government cannot be trusted with the 2nd Amendment, just as our founders warned us. The primary problem with this nationwide hysteria to enforce red flag laws is none are crafted with sufficient protections for the accused. Apparently, we’ve been deluding ourselves that the U.S. judiciary would rather let ten guilty parties go free than convict one innocent person.

    Additionally, these laws generally place enormous responsibility and pressure on police officers and judges to dispense pretrial punishment, just in case an owner might be mentally afflicted. This kind of punishment is overly severe to be based on amateur opinions afforded by all the red flag laws enacted thus far.

    Since we’re dealing with mentally troubled persons, the law should include analysis by licensed psychiatrists. Doubtlessly, we all know of judges and law officers who are far from qualified for such professional undertakings. I also doubt that they’d volunteer to diagnose mental illness if their jobs depended on doing it correctly.

    This movement makes it clear that democrats want control without responsibility. I used to wonder why leftists saturate media outlets with soothing pleas for conversation instead of acting on their clear and ultimate goal of total confiscation. I assumed they stopped short of the extreme because they know firearms owners won’t tolerate confiscation without unimaginable fury.

    Fact is leftists will temporarily settle for controlling little things like angry partners, bayonet lugs, ammunition taxes, bullet shapes and so on. But it’s still part of a common leftist flimflam. Eventually they’ll again get around to universal background checks that are impossible to manage without universal registration.

    They need a universal firearm registry because it fundamentally transforms 120 million owners into dependents. Once they know who the owners are, they’ll choose which of them are allowed to be licensed. It’s the consummate entitlement. The democrat party cannot survive without more than half the nation being dependent on the government. Leftists trade entitlements for votes. It’s the heart of their strategy.

    Justice requires that the accused be afforded at least a modicum of professional analysis and an official opinion by two or more psychiatrists. Leftists screech in the streets if denied a full measure of due process but close their eyes on the subject of self-defense by firearm. These laws open the doors to scorned partners, angry neighbors, children seeking a parent’s wealth and arrogant judges.

    They empower mothers, fathers, brothers, sisters, sons, daughters, uncles, aunts, cousins, friends, neighbors, judges, police officers, boyfriends, girlfriends, classmates, teachers and everyone except those actually qualified to judge mental competence. Makes me wonder about the motive for this law.

    Predictably, these newly empowered classes will start lodging complaints against firearms owners they don’t personally know. These empowered classes will look at acquaintances who share residences with or live nearby firearms owners. Complaints soon will be lodged by former partners of acquaintances. Friends of former partners, unhappy in-laws, step children, et al., also will complain.

    In other words, those who know little about owners but are acquainted with those who do, will lodge charges that someone they know may be in danger. It’s complicated and absurd. To iterate, socialists are not interested in public safety. They hope to disarm the governed before dispatching the disobedient.

  2. Robin Breed Reply

    May 8, 2019 at 12:50 pm

    I was in Vail when the opinion of the Sheriff was published relating to the red flag law. I was there when several schools had to be closed after a mentally unstable girl flew to Colorado and purchased a weapon with the intent of shooting up Columbine. I will never understand how any reasonable person living in our current reality of rising mass shootings (there have been 3 school shooting already in 2019) would have an issue with weapons being temporarily removed with a judges order if the person is deemed a threat thru reports from individuals or direct threats made by the person. A person’s right to have guns does not out way the publics right to be safe. Ever. I don’t need to experience a personal tragedy to empathize with those who have lost loved ones only to find out later the shooter had a history of violence or was known to local authorities as a dangerous person. Mentally stable, non violent, non threatening law abiding gun owners have nothing to fear from a red flag law. This issue and the opinion of the sheriff are even harder to understand as I read today about the school shooting that took place outside of Denver yesterday. This is the new norm unfortunately and laws regarding guns have to change with the times just like everything else.

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